Monday, April 5, 2010

Welcome, and a new topic!

To all our students this year, welcome! I hope you like this blog, and you find it useful for your studies.
In a short while we will be updating our slideshow with photos of you, so dress smartly for our next class!

Well, and now, the new topic. Here it goes:

NO PAIN, NO GAIN

Are you more like this …




… or like this?


Let´s begin the year by analysing this saying. Do you know what it means? (Find out if you don´t!) More personally, how do you interpret it? What does it mean, in your opinion?

Is it true that we can only get what we want by making efforts? Does this idea apply to life? To your studies? How?


26 comments:

Juliet! said...

Hi everyone!
This is a very interesting topic for me since I’ve been trying for almost a year to get the strength to go to the gym, but I’m too lazy to do it! (So I guess I’m more like the second type).
"No pain, no gain" is a saying that means that if you don’t suffer or don’t make great efforts you won’t get something that you want. In my opinion it means just that. In life you have to work hard to get what you want, if not you will never see good results. I think that this idea totally applies to life, in many aspects. For instance, if you want to get your degree in a couple of years you will have to work really hard to get it. It will be necessary to make some great efforts and sacrifices, and perhaps it will even seem like you’ll never get there, but if you try hard enough and put all your strength on it, eventually, you will graduate. You just have to be willing to do it, right?

Ganesha said...

"No pain, no gain" means "No gain without pain". I agree with this idea. I think that if you want to be in good shape you have to exercise regularly and be patient to see the results. The thing is that when we take up an activity, say running, we want to see the results right now, and it takes time to see the outcome of what we want. So, people frustrate and give up because they don't achieve their goals.
But, here's the thing: Intentions are measured by the results. If you don't work hard, if you don't push yourself to the maximum, you'll never get what you really want.
This is totally applicable in life. Life is permanent struggling. If I look at the past all I see is a series of challenges. All I have now was once upon the things I really hoped for. But without effort nothing is gained.
So I agree with Juliet. Our job is to hold to the outcome of what we want and be patient. The how it will come about is the universe's work.

Unknown said...

Hi!!
I agree with juliet in the sense that "This idea totally applies to life,in many aspects",this means not all the aspects.There are some exceptions.
Have you ever thought of having something? And then, out of the blue you got it? I feel happy when this kind of things happen. "No pain,but gain".
However,it does happen that one may make a lot of efforts without good results.Once,after studying a lot,I sat for a final exam.However,I failed.
I think that even bad results are included in the process of getting finally a good result.When I sat for the exam a second time I passed.
So, the saying "No pain, no gain" can be applied in "some" aspects of life.

Unknown said...

Hi!!
I agree with juliet in the sense that "This idea totally applies to life,in many aspects",this means not all the aspects.There are some exceptions.
Have you ever thought of having something? And then, out of the blue you got it? I feel happy when this kind of things happen. "No pain,but gain".
However,it does happen that one may make a lot of efforts without good results.Once,after studying a lot,I sat for a final exam.However,I failed.
I think that even bad results are included in the process of getting finally a good result.When I sat for the exam a second time I passed.
So, the saying "No pain, no gain" can be applied in "some" aspects of life.

Juliet! said...

Yes Jane, that's totally true. Some things do fall from the sky sometimes, and when it happens we are obviously more than thrilled. And you are also right when you say that sometimes, even though we try really hard, and make lots of efforts and sacrifices we don't get what we want. I think that we just have to keep trying, learning from our mistakes so as not to make them once more. Like I said in my first post, it's only a matter of being willing to make those efforts.

lara croft said...

I saw this topic the other day and I was thinking of what to say, when I saw two pieces of news which made me think about efforts in life. In the first, Wanda Nara was talking about the Ferrari that her husband gave her, and I thought that sometimes it´s true that things come from out of the blue like Jane says. No pain, but gain. But, anyway, who wants to be like Wanda Nara? (I´m not asking who wants to "be" like her, not "live" like her!)
The second piece of news was an interview with Mercedes Margalot, an ex "Las Leonas" who won many championships and went to the Olympics. She said that she had no talent, that everything she did in hockey was because she made a great effort. I don´t know if it´s true that she has no talent, but she says it was hard to win all those tournaments. So this is pain and gain. And in any case I´d prefer to be like her! I prefer to deserve what I have.
Talking about university, I think that we also have to make efforts here, but in my experience, you have to make the right kind of effort: I discovered this when I studied hard for a subject and failed because I had studied by heart and I needed to understand. So now I try to understand from the beginning, and the "pain" of studying has become easier.

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María Belén said...

Hello everyone!
Well, I believe this is a very interesting topic, one that involves many aspects of our everyday lives, and like most of what we are used to dealing with, we do not often analyse it.
I myself, am one of the people that would be identified with the second picture displayed here. Even knowing that physical exercise would be really good for my health, I do not do it, and I usually find myself saying "I'll go to the gym next week/month". Only once did I actually do it just as I'd said I would. And I continued to go to the gym 6 days a week, for almost two months... Then one day, just walking on the street, I tripped on something and broke a little bone on my right foot, which didn't take long to heal, but I never went back to the gym.
Anyway, I believe the topic of this post is not only about work-out, but more generally about making efforts that should help us accomplish something we want.
In my opinion, the mentioned saying can be applied to as many things as we can think of achieving. "Pain" here, does not necessarily imply physical pain, but devoting as much energy as possible to trying to get the goal we have set our minds to. Most of the times, things work that way, we don't get good results if we don't try hard, or if we're not persistent enough.
Of course, some other times, we do not get what we want, even after doing all the best we could and having the best intentions. But I will not engage with the subject of good/bad luck. What is interesting to our discussion is whether or not it is worth making efforts to accomplish our goals, even knowing that there is a chance we don't get the desired results.
I believe it is always worth trying to do something that we want, though sometimes we are afraid or intimidated by what might happen. If you've ever decided to postpone something, and lost the chance of doing it in the future, you will probably know what I mean. Regretting the fact of not having tried, and wondering "what would have happened if I had...?", is a terrible feeling. So, even if there is a chance of not being successful, we should always give the best of us and work hard, hoping for good results.

Unknown said...

Hi people!
After reading your comments,I thought about the importance of making efforts when we want to achieve something.
Perhaps you all know this story.. It is about a man whose aim was to reach the top of a very high mountain.Once he achieved his goal, he realized that he had more to say about his arduous and hard climb than his time spent on the top of the mauntain.That is to say,the fact of achieving our aim by making previous great efforts is what it counts.Our aim becomes valuable.We sometime tend to place more importance on those things that are difficult to get than the one that are obtained effortlessly.Perhaps, this why we "enjoy" making efforts.

Eli said...

No pain, no gain...such a great truth...I've heard it a lot from my parents since I was a little girl. This saying means that nothing is possibly achieved without an effort implied.
I believe that it is by making efforts that we achieve our aims effectively. That is, we feel fully satisfied when we reach our goals by our own means. Perhaps it is the effort of pursuing them that makes them taste better.
What does pursuing our goals mean anyway? Well, making decisions, having fewer hours of sleep, being caught in the impossibility of letting our minds go blank just for once, often moody and deep absorbed in our own thoughts...oh yes, I have been there... However, this is the way it should be, going through difficult paths that make us struggle to reach what we hoped for.
Because struggling makes us grow and succeed, I accept it. Nobody said that "gaining" is supposed to be "painless", anyway.

lara croft said...

Just a short coment for Elisa: I´m sorry but I don´t really think that pursuing your goals has to mean sleeping less and thinking about them all the time, at least not necessarily. Is all that pain really necessary? I think we can have gain with less pain.

matilda said...

we agree with juliet in that this topic applies to many aspects of our life. It is true that when something requires effort and you finally achieve your aim, satisfaction is different from that you´d have if it´d have fallen from the sky.We tend to appreciate it more when we have to work hard to get it: "no pain, no gain".

Flor said...
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Flor said...

Hello! like most of you already said, you have to work hard in order to get what you want. Nothing in life comes easily, unfortunately. Yet, despite all the hard work, isn't it nice when after all the hardship, trials, exams, sweating in the gym, etc you get the results you want? Isn't it all worth it then?

snoopy said...

hi everyone! In relation to your comments, I think that the general idea of this topic is that everything we gain in life is more valuable if we achieve it through great effort. Some people may achieve everything they want without any sacrifice, but at some point in their lives they realize that their achievements mean nothing to them because is not a consequence of their effort. In fact, we enjoy what we gain by ourselves.

emi said...

I believe that "No pain, no gain" means that if you do not try your best, you won´t be able to get what you want. By trying your best I mean that there is "a little suffering" when one wants to succeed in achieving a personal goal.
What is true is that in order to get good results in life, one should be patient because sometimes, when one wants something really bad, it may take time to acquire it.
I agree with Lara croft, particularly when she speaks about University and tells us her experience, I can say that I had the same feeling when I sat for a final exam and failed. Even though I had studied hard for that test, I did not get the results I expected. Then, like Lara, I realised I had to make the right kind of effort; it is better to understand what you read than learning concepts by heart.

belu said...

"No pain, no gain" is a well-known phrase typically used when referring to efforts in life, such as studying at college, working hard to have a better life and achieving your plans.
Nobody gives you nothing for free; you always have to fight to get what you want. What is hard to understand is that, although you make a great effort, this does not mean that the results will be the ones you expect. The secret is to not give up! You should be patient and keep on trying because in the long run your efforts will be rewarded!

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Luciana Iglesias said...

No pain, no gain means that if you don't make an effort to achieve what you want, you will probably find it difficult to obtain it.
Personally, I've always worked hard for what I wanted, sometimes I get to where I want to be, and other times I don't, but that just make me works harder. I believe that almost everything in life is gained by suffering some kind of "pain", because it is not likely that life will give you anything you want unless you really deserve it.

Paula said...

An example that explains the meaning of this saying perfectly is the following:
Whenever I'm studying to take a final exam I get so nervous that I even get sick. I know I’m not the only person that goes through this but I always get the feeling that all this painful process is not worth the suffering. Anyway, after taking the exam (and especially when I pass) I feel such a relief that makes the pain go away. So, I agree with the idea of “no pain no gain” and try to repeat it to myself every time I’m in a difficult situation.

maripettigrosso said...

"No pain, no gain" means putting all your effort in getting what you need or want. It´s a fact of life that nothing comes easy, so you must work extra hard to achieve your goals.
In my case, when I´m really interested in something or want to succeed in mi career,I try my best and hope everything would turn out ok.

daniela r said...

"no pain, no gain" applies perfectly to my life since I always have to suffer a great deal when I have a goal I want to accomplish. Nothing comes to me easily, but I think that all the material things we obtain without making an effort seem to be worthless once we have them. On the contrary, when we sacrifice we give more importance to all we have achieved because it has not been an easy task for us.

Carniza said...

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Carniza said...

Hi everyone!
I do agree with the phrase. Effort is the basis on which we build things and it would be unthinkable to think of accomplishing our targets without it.

Unknown said...

Hi everybody! What an interesting topic to discuss! I've read some of the comments, and i agree with those who said that we HAVE to make efforts to get what we want.It feels VERY different to me when i get good results after working hard than when i just have been "lucky". (eventhough i'm not a lucky person!). Definetely luck is not always enough, and i personally like doing my best in every aspect in life.

Unknown said...

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